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Length
7.2 miles
Elevation
1576'
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Forecast
Trail is riding well right now and there are no reports of mud, deadfall, or snow.

Trail Reports

  • Tim Maddux June 6, 2017 at 2:49 pmI noticed that between successive runs that morning out upper Tiddlywinks from Wanoga. Thanks, Gina (or whomever it was that cut those trees out)!
  • Natalie Herse June 6, 2017 at 7:37 am12" ish?
  • Joe Myers June 5, 2017 at 10:16 pmare the trees small enough for hand saw? or chainsaw worthy? I will check my schedule and let ya know on FB :)
  • Natalie Herse June 5, 2017 at 10:09 pmIf you're serious I plan to be at Wanoga at 10 am on Wednesday. Can give you a ride to there or along the way...
  • Joe Myers June 5, 2017 at 9:37 pmIf you shuttle me to the top sure :)
  • Natalie Herse June 5, 2017 at 8:00 pmDear logging fairies, Any chance you could cut out the 3-4ish down/semi-down trees on the uphill climbing trail section that parallels the downhill berms/whoops section? Thank you :)
  • Gina Holmstrom June 5, 2017 at 11:13 amThe deadfall and learners that were walking distance from Wanoga are clear. Have fun!
 

Trail Description

As per COTA and the USFS, Tiddlywinks is a two-way mountain biking trail, but be careful and aware when climbing. Make sure to look ahead for riders coming downhill — especially in the newly re-worked middle “flow” section where descending riders will likely be going very fast and lines of sight are somewhat limited.

Tiddlywinks starts out at Wanoga Snow Park and is a little more flow-oriented than Funner, with less rock and more berms and jumps along the middle section. The top section of Tiddly is more XC style trail and rides out through some open, rolling terrain with some rock gardens, and then intersects Kiwa Butte trail.

After the intersection with Kiwa, the trail heads down through some heavy berms and flow style jumps on the order of Lower Whoops trail. COTA has invested a lot of time in converting this old road section on the trail to something really dynamic. The guys at Oregon Enduro invest a lot of time on this trail as well.

After about six miles the trail intersects Steve Larsen trail to the right and shortly after ends out at the intersection with Stormking and Funner.

Along the upper-middle section there is a separate up route for those who are climbing.

Sixty second clip of mountain biking on Tiddlywinks.

This trail is maintained by Central Oregon Trail Alliance.

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Trail Reports » Tiddlywinks

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  1. Natalie Herse says:

    Dear logging fairies,
    Any chance you could cut out the 3-4ish down/semi-down trees on the uphill climbing trail section that parallels the downhill berms/whoops section? Thank you :)

    1. Joe Myers says:

      If you shuttle me to the top sure :)

      1. Natalie Herse says:

        If you’re serious I plan to be at Wanoga at 10 am on Wednesday. Can give you a ride to there or along the way…

        1. Joe Myers says:

          are the trees small enough for hand saw? or chainsaw worthy? I will check my schedule and let ya know on FB :)

          1. Natalie Herse says:

            12″ ish?

  2. Gina Holmstrom says:

    The deadfall and learners that were walking distance from Wanoga are clear. Have fun!

    1. Tim Maddux says:

      I noticed that between successive runs that morning out upper Tiddlywinks from Wanoga. Thanks, Gina (or whomever it was that cut those trees out)!

  3. Ryan Pedersen says:

    Amazing the amount of snow that has melted in a couple days. I’d say it’s about 97% rideable as of mid day 5/28. One downed tree on the lower tech section before Kiwa intersection. Heard there was still deadfall on the short section from Wanoga snow park to NF 4614 so I took the quad track parallel to it. Go ride!!

    1. Gina Holmstrom says:

      I’ll be out there next week trying to clear that deadfall. I did clear a tree on th section b4 Kiwa on the 27th, is there another one down?

      1. Ryan Pedersen says:

        Yes. On the black line near that huge boulder

      2. One tree is sagging (but you can get under it) and one is down and forces a dismount. Both are within a few hundred yards of the Wanoga Sno Park.

        1. Tim Maddux says:

          Both trees that Robert mentioned are still down. Walking distance from the Wanoga TH.

  4. Gina Holmstrom says:

    cleared 5 trees before and after 4613. Still some choppy snow but much has melted in the last week. I’ll survey again next week.

  5. Ryan Pedersen says:

    Dry sections can be accessed starting at Wanoga parking lot by taking the quad track that runs parallel to Tiddly until you reach NF-4614 (first dirt road). Go right until the first left which will be road 490 (not sure if it’s marked but its not far after the sign post for Wanoga lot). 490 has all of the power lines on it so that is a good way to know you are on the right track. Follow 490 until you get to the 2ND crossing of Tiddly. Then go left for snow free fun

    Here’s a map: https://ibb.co/jF3yha

  6. Joe Myers says:

    Cleared trees up to about a qtr mile above power lines. Stopped about where the trail name appears on the map above. Lots of snow starting just above power lines.

  7. Jeff Gully says:

    The upper part of Tiddlywinks is still pretty much exactly as Eric Kutter described. I continued on through the clearing and it turned into a ton of hike a bike over huge snow drifts once you’re back in the trees, finally bailed out not too much further down on a dirt road and rode back over to Funner… which as of right now is much funner.

  8. Dave Sparling says:

    Trail is rideable from as high as around 5200′ elevation (where the trail crosses the power line). A few hundred yards above that there are some deep drifts.

    Below this point there is one tree down a couple hundred yards after the jump over the rock/bush.

    Also the trees previously reported down in the clearing are still there and will need someone with a chainsaw.

  9. Eric Kutter says:

    Walked from Wanoga this morning. Mostly snow covered up to 4′ deep until you get to the big clearing just past XC ski trails. Then mostly clear across the big clearing except through the technical rock section at the S edge with drifts up to 4′. Then largely snow covered once you get back into the trees on the E side of the clearing.

  10. Jeff Johnston says:

    Trevor and I rode up Tiddly yesterday and got all the way up to just passed the second clearing as you climb up, heavy drifting on the next steep climb that follows. There’s a proper tree down just as you enter the first clearing on the climb up, as well as a man killer snag poking out into the trail right before that tree. We wrestled with the snag to no avail, a saw is needed to defeat this downed lumber. Happy shredding!

  11. James Moro says:

    Any new updates on tiddly?

  12. Ryan Pedersen says:

    Riding well from Storm King to Kiwa Spring Rd.

  13. Eric Kutter says:

    Still 2 to 3 feet of snow across the big open area near Wanoga.

  14. Peter Fox says:

    Big trees down in first half mile above junction with Storm King. Snow before junction with Larsens.

    1. Bill Hartrich says:

      Trees now cleared on Tiddlywinks between Storm King and Tyler’s.

      1. Joe Myers says:

        Sweet. Did you mean up to Larsen? Or did you clear Larsen too?

        1. Bill Hartrich says:

          Oops! I meant Storm King and Larsen. Will head up to Larsen for clearing tomorrow.

  15. Brian Frankle says:

    Descended Tiddlywinks from Kiwa JCT. Probably 1″ of snow at the JCT. Descent was fresh snow, but rode well. Half way down turned to dirt/slush mix. Fun as always.

  16. Natalie Herse says:

    From the top: Scattered 1-2″ snow/slush patches with occasional running meltoff and standing water from Wanoga Snopark to just to the start of the whoops 100 yards past the Kiwa Butte intersection (snow mostly on flat areas in the shaded trees – interspersed with hero dirt). Tacky, perfect tread from the Whoops to the bottom.

  17. Joe Myers says:

    few trees down reported on up tiddly.

  18. Jane Quinn says:

    Today some customers reported snow starting half way up Funner and on Upper Tiddlywinks.

  19. Wanoga was riding awesome last night. Great to have a solid corner instead of a sand pit for a change.

  20. Joel Blatt says:

    Lower Tiddlywinks (connector between Storm King and Larsen’s) has one tree down, which requires carry-over. Otherwise, riding well.

  21. Kahai Wodehouse says:

    Deep dry powder sections, becareful.

  22. Dustin Balderach says:

    As of Friday (22 July), Tiddly is pretty blown out and dusty. Not horrible but we could definitely use some rain.

  23. Rob Lindberg says:

    Climbed funner and descended tiddly twice this week (6/28 & 6/29). Definitely a bit blown out but still a blast and a good opportunity to dial in your cornering skills in loose, dusty conditions. Jumps are still holding up for the most part.

  24. The Oregon Enduro will be held on Twinks (and Funner and Tyler’s) on Sunday June 5th. If there was ever a day to avoid climbing Tiddlywinks — this is it. Race starts at 9 am so I’d guess that the course will be clear by mid to late afternoon.

    1. Tristan S says:

      Shuttles are running all day for practice today as well. Its probably a good weekend to just avoid Wanoga altogether. Last year, I rode over there on the pre-ride day, and it was a cluster.

  25. Ryan Brown says:

    Love the new face lift! New gaps are epic!

    I have to make a note however, the signs about uphill traffic needing to yield to downhill need to be bigger. I can tell many people ignored the signs today. I give a lot of hoots and shouts when coming around corners to prep for some of the larger gaps and people were still very oblivious/angry towards me

    1. Twinks really needs an uphill-specific route. I love all the new (and old) jumps! But, if you’re climbing, be careful!

    2. Joel Blatt says:

      Why not enforce “no uphill route on weekends and holidays.” I’ve climbed it a couple times recently, but always during the week and without conflict. I don’t know who governs this kind of thing, but it seems sensible, yes?

    3. Mike Johnson says:

      I was at the bottom of Tiddlywinks about a week ago and these guys were cussing out all the riders for not yielding to them when they were descending at 20+ mph. To quote them, “I’m getting so tired of those a**holes for not getting the hell out of the way”. I mentioned that the “uphill rider does have the right of way… just saying”. If my son wasn’t with me I’m sure I would have used more colorful language. They looked at my like I was from outer space. So, I agree the signs to remind knuckleheads like this about trail etiquette need to be bigger and more prevalent.

      1. Ryan Brown says:

        Love the Uphill route suggestions gents thank you!

        In response to Mr. Johnson,

        Yes, I typically agree on the uphill has the right-a-way when it comes to many mountain bike trails, where your comment makes sense. It was a bit unwarranted for this situation. Certain trails dictate different rules of engagement. Winks is obviously not meant for climbing even though it is a two way trail, it’s more of a flow/free ride trail just like Tyler’s.
        I would have to say there are a few new things to consider when going mountain biking these days:
        -Trail Type (doing research is always good)

        -Giving lots of hoots and shouts on descents (no matter what type of trail, gives ascenders a good warning and an opportunity to respond)

        -Realizing that riders heading up hill have a much easier time yielding to descenders (again, given trail type and complexity)

      2. Ryan Brown says:

        Also, the signs on Winks do say that downhill traffic has right of way given the trail type…

        1. Brent Edens says:

          The signs most definitely do not say “downhill traffic gets right of way, all they say is to be aware of downhill traffic while climbing.
          I wish that they did denote right of way for down hill, seems a no-brainer to me.
          I was a bit amazed today to find several people ardently claiming right of way while climbing in the middle flow section.
          At least the upper flow section has division for a bit.

    4. Jon Fogarty says:

      I wont ride up Tiddlywinks- I know how fast I come down past the power lines and I wouldn’t want to meet someone doing the same. I have an uphill route, take Larsens over toward Tylers and as soon as you hit Kiwa Springs rd go rt then immediately left on the next FS road (dont know the #) go up that 1.3 miles then take a rt (you will be at the base of Kiwa butte) and that road will take you to the bottom of the Tiddly winks upper DH section. There is an old moto trail as well that should be revived- it would be the perfect uphill route. Its totally insane that Bens is one way and Tiddlywinks is not- guess it will take someone getting seriously hurt which is bound to happen.

      1. Mike Schmeiske says:

        There is serious need for an uphill route on this trail, as we all know! Jon has a good route on the road climb by making the right on Kiwa Springs Rd. (4130) at the crossing before Larsen’s, then a left on the 4613 road to the Tiddlywinks crossing near the Powerline (490) road. Let’s all make it a point to get others to climb this or on the Powerline road (even though it’s a mess and has heavy dirtbiker traffic)…

        1. Brent Edens says:

          I like Funner up to NF4613 to the Tiddlywinks intersection. Fast and pretty direct, but it is a road…

  26. Brian Coop says:

    While there’s no way I’ll ever be clearing some of the new and bigger gap jumps, it gives me a new respect for those that can. Can’t wait to watch the big boys hit them during the Enduro next weekend!

  27. Joe Myers says:

    Cleared 1 tree that was good sized on the lowest end of the deadfall. There are 2 big stands of deadfall above that (just below where the uphill and downhill split).

  28. Joel Blatt says:

    Deadfall is between 2-3 miles via uphill. Otherwise, “riding well.”

  29. Ryan Pedersen says:

    Discovered (accidentally) you can skip the deadfall by taking fire road 490. Not a huge deal to get over/around it either but thought I would share.

  30. Joe Myers says:

    Todd and Devon Cleared Tiddlywinks from Kiwa junction to bottom of DH including the uphill route on 5/16.

    1. Mike Schmeiske says:

      Still a handful of trees (3-4) in the flat section between the first DH and revamped road DH, FYI.

      1. Mike Schmeiske says:

        (Downhill from the Kiwa Junction, that is)

  31. Bill Hartrich says:

    Wanoga parking lot to Kiwa intersection is clear of all dead fall. However, there is some patchy snow. Almost all rideable. There is a potential hazard if your heading from Kiwa intersection toward Wanoga down the black diamond. A large tree has uprooted the trail right after one of the rock jumps.

  32. SK Johnson says:

    Rode down from Wanoga. Got turned around maybe 3mi down. Start hitting snow patches not long after getting into the trees.

  33. Heidi H-P says:

    Tiddly is mostly snow free until just after the Larsen’s/Tyler’s Traverse intersection. After that there are a few small and mostly rideable snow patches until just after the second set of berms and jumps, if headed uphill. At that point the snow is at least 1-3 feet deep on average and is too deep to ride up, down or around. Downed trees across the trail, for which one must dismount, can be also be found in increasing frequency at this point.

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